You’re listening to the Day by day Roundup right here as a part of the Actuality. Steve Podcast, I’m your host actuality. Steve, thanks all for tuning in on this. What day is it? Wednesday, geez. Lastly, as you’ll be able to hear, I’m again at dwelling. This doesn’t sound like I’m recording into my telephone. No less than it shouldn’t, and right now obtained a few last ideas on the Bachelor finale, however right now goes to be an interview.
With the topic of the Joe Schmo present that aired its finale final evening on TBS. His identify is Ben Rizone. Should you watched the present, you realize who I’m speaking about. We obtained an interview with Ben arising right now on the each day roundup, and we’ll get to all that momentarily. This podcast delivered to you by Fairly Litter Spring is within the air.
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You could possibly obtain it there. They aired the finale final evening. And actually for a present like this, which is principally a prank plate on any individual, you’re simply ready for that last response and. Man, Ben couldn’t have been a greater trooper for every little thing. It was simply, it was a really constructive ending with a lot negativity occurring on social media and the world for that matter.
It was simply actually cool to observe an ending to the present like this and to see, yeah, this man didn’t lose it, isn’t mad at anyone. And right here he’s, what, nearly three years faraway from filming that present. You’ll hear him on right now’s podcast simply. Only a tremendous good man that I believe you’ll, I believe, I believe when you hear this interview, you’ll understand why they did choose him to be the topic of the present.
Simply appears to be very simply take heed to the interview. I do wanna say a pair issues about Grant and Juliana as I gathered my ideas flying dwelling yesterday and looking out throughout social media. There have been, there have been a pair issues that I wished to level out. Primary. As is the case each season when it comes right down to social media stuff.
Bear in mind, I don’t know, just a few weeks in the past, a month in the past, Laia went on that influencer journey with a bunch of former alumni, Gabby l Nikki. She went with Katie Greater charity, Lawson child Jess. Are we nonetheless calling her child Jess, by the way in which? Her identify’s Jessica Gerard. Jess Gerard, however I suppose all people is aware of Rose Child, Jess, a pair different individuals, I believe.
I believe, I believe possibly Mercedes was on that journey as nicely. However on the time, I imply, look, I knew the ending of filming Grant selected Juliana. However clearly the query turned, did he make a change? Did he change it to Latia? After which when individuals noticed Latia on these influencer journeys with the opposite ladies, some individuals have been satisfied, oh my gosh, this completely means she’s the ultimate one.
I checked out it utterly reverse. To me that was much more affirmation that Grant wasn’t with Latia, as a result of I don’t suppose there’s any approach the present would’ve let Latia hang around with so many former alumni and be so public about it. You could possibly hang around with former alumni, however you gotta hold it type of on the dl.
And Latia was simply on the market. Each single lady in that occasion posted stuff on their social media. Ariel was in it as nicely. She was on the, after the funnel rose. I simply, to me. That was simply, that was simply extra affirmation that he didn’t select Latia, nor was he with Latia. However once more, if it, if one particular person thinks it may very well be one thing else, then meaning it’s not definitive.
One thing on social media is just not 100% definitive, and that’s at all times what I’ve tried to inform individuals. And, however for me, yeah, that was, that was. One thing that actually pointed within the course of Yeah, she’s undoubtedly not with Grant. ’trigger the present would by no means let, I imply simply suppose again. Simply suppose again to each winner ever on the present of the winner of the bachelor season, have you ever ever seen them hanging out with ladies from different seasons and doing an influencer journey whereas the episodes have been airing?
I’ll provide you with until the tip of time to reply that query as a result of the reply’s no. It hasn’t occurred. Any individual may need run into any individual someplace. Any individual may need seen any individual out someplace and brought an image. This was a totally deliberate. Let’s invite Latia, a woman who’s nonetheless on the present proper now with a bunch of us alumni.
It was simply, it, it, it screamed. Now clearly each single lady on that journey was nicely conscious of what the ending of the present was. There’s no approach they didn’t speak about it. And most of these ladies have been on the, after the funnel rose on Monday evening supporting Latia. However I believe it’s potential to help Latia help what she needed to say to Grant.
The day of the ultimate row ceremony and what she stated on stage on Monday evening, and it’s additionally potential to help Grant and Juliana as they navigate their relationship going ahead. You don’t have to decide on sides, which I believe I noticed quite a lot of yesterday. Everybody’s like, why do now we have to, you realize, we’re so unhappy for Latia.
Why can’t she be our bachelorette? Ugh, grant did her so improper. However then you definitely noticed Grant and Juliana’s engagement and it appeared like a pleasant engagement. They appear actually into one another. He’s transferring to Boston for her for not less than a yr, I suppose. Like why can’t there simply be two truths in all this Latia having her fact in saying what she stated to Grant and Grant, and Juliana additionally being very blissful.
It doesn’t imply Grant and Juliana should be depressing due to the issues that he apparently stated to Latia. Again at episode two and again on the evening earlier than the ultimate Rose ceremony day. So that’s one thing that I wished to level out. The opposite factor was Grant and Juliana made the media rounds yesterday, did quite a lot of interviews, and there’s one, most of ’em, they stated the identical factor in all of them.
They didn’t give any solutions that have been like, oh my gosh, did you see this? Nevertheless, there was one reply that did stick out to me and it’s nothing prefer it was so like. Eye popping, however it’s one thing that I believe quite a lot of followers want a reminder of as a result of I beat you over the top with it each season, however individuals don’t appear to take heed to me.
You should hear it instantly from the contestants and Grant and Juliana did an interview with Jessica Rad giggle from glamour.com and she requested Grant about that last dialog and letting Latia converse her thoughts earlier than he informed her he wasn’t her man. She stated. Did you ever consider saying, Hey, earlier than you begin, let me let you know that you just’re not the precise one.
Not in these phrases, in fact, however earlier than she poured her coronary heart out to you, did you concentrate on stopping her from letting it get that far, realizing she wasn’t the ultimate one? And Grant stated, in fact, I thought of it a number of instances, however the viewers must be conscious that there are different powers in play relating to being the Bachelor.
There’s a protocol, there’s an entire staff that claims. That is the way in which issues are completed. I’m the twenty ninth bachelor. There have been quite a lot of bachelors earlier than me. I believe if you happen to look again, you see the method of what it’s. You permit the particular person to talk after which there’s a, however I don’t know if that’s for a dramatic factor, however I do know that I did the very best that I might.
If I might rewind, I in all probability can be somewhat extra stern and never attempt to make all people round me blissful. Translation. He needed to let Latia converse. Backside line, we all know this. This isn’t information. I let you know this. Each season up till Joey’s season, once they had that wonky, Kelsey and Daisy arriving collectively, and Daisy had already decided in her personal head that she wasn’t being picked.
So she was principally telling Joey, you realize, thanks for the time, however I do know you’re gonna choose Kelsey within the historical past of the Bachelor. They’ve by no means let the Bachelor go to the ultimate girl’s room early or. Cease her earlier than she begins speaking on the last Rose ceremony. By no means on the Bachelorette. They let ’em do it on a regular basis.
We had a string of like 5 or 6 seasons in a row the place the bachelorette actually obtained to go to the man’s room the morning of or the day earlier than and say, Hey, simply to let you realize, I’m not choosing you. However on The Bachelor, I don’t know. It’s as a result of they wish to embarrass the ladies. They need a extra emotional response from the ladies.
Nevertheless it’s by no means occurred. So for these saying like, and, and you realize, to not name her out, however Gabby l Nikki on Instagram tales on Monday evening completely known as quote unquote grant out for doing that. And principally stated, no approach do you let that girl pour her coronary heart out to you and never inform her beforehand that she’s not the one.
And it’s identical to, come on, Gabby, you have been a part of the present. Perhaps she doesn’t perceive it, even to at the present time. She doesn’t perceive how this present works, however I’m sorry. It’s by no means occurred within the historical past of the present. They’ve by no means allowed the Bachelor to go to the lady’s room that he’s not gonna choose the morning of or the evening earlier than and say, I’m not choosing you.
And so they’ve by no means allowed the lady who ended up ending in second place to indicate up and him cease her mid-sentence or no matter, they at all times let her converse so the Bachelor may give his speech after which say, however. It’s at all times labored that approach, and Grant answered the query precisely how he ought to have with out throwing manufacturing below the bus.
He’s principally saying, look, I needed to do what I used to be informed. That is the way in which the present works. That is what they need you to do. I want I might have been somewhat extra stern and never attempt to make all people round me blissful. That’s the stress you’re below as a lead. You’ve obtained an entire crew of staff telling you what to do.
And also you’re a one man present, who, they’re doing a present about you and your love journey. You’re not gonna piss them off. You don’t wish to piss them off. So he went together with it, however he went together with it, as did the earlier 28 Bachelors earlier than him all principally did the identical factor. So let’s not give Grant shit for letting Laia converse her thoughts and him not stopping her and telling her beforehand, as a result of it’s by no means occurred within the historical past of the Bachelor.
All proper, let’s get going. Right here’s my interview with the Joe Schmo Present Ben Fr Zone. Alright, right here he’s the person of the hour. He’s the topic of the Joe Schmo Present. This season on TBS, you noticed his season come to a dramatic conclusion final evening. It’s Ben Fr zone. Ben, thanks for approaching man. Thanks for having me.
Wow, that was one hell of a journey. And earlier than we get into something, I wish to say proper off the bat one thing that since I began watching the present has turn into part of my life. Are you aware any instances simply randomly I’ve walked by my canine or simply checked out my canine and stated, bu he simply, for no purpose in any respect.
I imply, it’s unreal. Simply, and I’ll even do the signal and the canine canine has no concept why I’m doing it, however. My gosh, it’s caught in my head. Simply curious outta curiosity, as soon as you bought dwelling, did it ever float in your thoughts at evening? Did you ever say it to individuals?
No, not actually, probably not. Nevertheless it has turn into one thing of a greeting now, so yeah,
individuals do exactly say
Shaya ho
Now, simply outta curiosity once more, for the reason that present has been airing, ’trigger clearly this was filmed.
Some time in the past, I consider, simply primarily based on the, mm-hmm. Simply primarily based on the masks that have been being worn by manufacturing. Now that it’s airing and folks have seen it, are individuals, in the event that they see you out, are they saying it to you? Are you being acknowledged whenever you’re out? How’s it been?
I, I’ve but to be acknowledged out and about.
Yeah. So, however I imply, I, I do have some dms, you realize, individuals ship me messages on Instagram or Fb, however, no, no in-person interactions but.
So no person’s, no person’s stopped you and stated, Hey, you’re the man from the Joe Schmo present. No person but. No. No. Alright, so let’s, let’s get into it. And, you realize, I used to be gonna ask you, I imply, the those who have contacted you, I’ll ask you this, what’s the, what’s the primary query you might be being requested by those who possibly have reached out on dms and stuff?
What’s, what’s the primary factor they’ve been asking you? As a result of I believe it could be the identical query that I’ve, however I’m curious.
I suppose, you realize, the, there’s one which’s a blanket and it’s simply, you realize, what was it like? Like
yeah,
that’s just like the generic one, however then I actually, second, second highest query is wish to go to dinner. Oh,
oh, oh, actually? Okay. So ladies are sliding into your dms. Obtained it. Obtained it. So mine was extra present associated as a result of I’m very within the, within the side of this and type of the, the entire behind the scenes and the way it labored.
Mine was, was there any level throughout the present, throughout this filming the place you actually did suppose. Man, one thing is off right here. Like I, possibly you didn’t suppose like I’m having an entire present devoted to me, however we did see that one problem the place you say, this isn’t actual. Proper. I’m being pranked when what’s his face was throwing his footwear into the, into the wooden chipper.
Yeah. Was there, exterior of that second, ’trigger I don’t even suppose in that second you really thought, Hey, I’m having a present made about me. That is all pretend. I believe you simply type of stated like, wait, what? That is, this isn’t actual. Proper. Like when. Was there any level throughout the present, like earlier than the ending, and also you have been informed every little thing that went on, did you ever, like at evening simply sitting round going, one thing’s off about all of this?
That’s, so, that’s undoubtedly one of many, you realize, increased on the checklist ask questions.
Yeah.
However you realize, I, I at all times say, I’m like, I, I, I felt prefer it was bizarre, you realize, I knew one thing was, I knew one thing was off. There have been moments the place I used to be like, okay, this wasn’t actual. However then, you realize, the actors and the producers and all people simply retains on holding on.
So then I’m left on this state of affairs the place I’m like, you’re simply going to the following one. It type of passes your mind. After which at evening, such as you stated, at evening, I’m considering. All technique. I imply, I used to be in it, you realize? Yeah. I used to be, I assumed I used to be, you realize, the large technique man.
Yeah. You thought you have been the goat.
You thought you have been the goat is what you thought. You understand, once I was watching and I’m sitting right here going, like, I, I, I, I don’t suppose that he, it’s very laborious to be like, oh, I do know this complete present is pretend and it’s all, it’s all being made surrounding me. No person would actually start to suppose that you just would possibly query, what the hell is that this?
And. Is that this present even actual? However I don’t suppose anyone would ever come to the conclusion that everyone round me is pretend. So, however when it was occurring, clearly you’re growing actual friendships, particularly with somebody like Maya Natasha, her actual identify, however you realize, it’s occurring and you’re clearly eager to compete and successful the sport.
How about when you have been eradicated and also you have been despatched to the loser’s home? Did, have been you considering like. I do know your mindset was, I must get again in and win this competitors and get again in and try to win. However whenever you have been eradicated and earlier than, you realize, as you have been eradicated and despatched to the loser’s home, have been you at some extent the place you’re like, rattling, this factor’s over.
I obtained, I’m not gonna win this factor. I completely thought I’m higher than all these individuals and I, I assumed I’d win.
Yeah. So, it took the wind outta my sails for positive. You understand, shedding, getting eradicated. However then they took me up, they confirmed me that video that there was a loser’s loft, and I used to be like, oh, okay.
That is, I used to be, I used to be type of blissful to get to see all people once more, you realize, get not less than that social side.
Yeah.
However yeah, after which, then within the losers loft once they got here again in and Kat was like, you’re gonna be competing within the problem. I imply it, it actually did it. Like a wave came to visit me of tension.
I’m like, oh man, now, now I’m again on this factor. I gotta compete once more.
I do know individuals watching at dwelling, since all of us are watching the present, realizing that there’s a prank being performed on you and. There’s in all probability individuals sitting at dwelling which are identical to, man, how’s he not catching onto this? He’s sitting, he’s sitting right here speaking to a goat day-after-day whereas everybody else is, you realize, strategizing and being informed what the script was for that day, however the goat stuff day-after-day.
Having to movie that have been, was there any a part of you the place there’s identical to, that is the weirdest sport present I’ve ever seen, although you hadn’t seen it because it wasn’t an actual sport present.
Proper. So there, there have been instances I had informed Maya and a number of the different characters. I’m like this, this complete goat factor within the morning.
I believe they’re messing with me. Like, why do I’ve to, you realize, all people else will get, I assumed on the time that everyone else had this carefree breakfast. Yeah. You understand what I imply? However I used to be the one man that needed to go down and I. Care for the goat with no reward principally.
Yeah. No, it, it was simply, you realize, sitting at dwelling we’re identical to, ah, is that this man not choosing up on it?
However yeah, you, you wouldn’t within the second, ’trigger who would suppose that any individual would, would select this. Now, clearly that brings us again to the truth that, how outdated are you, Ben? I’m 31. You’re 31. I’m considerably older than you, however I used to be an enormous fan of the primary three seasons of the Joe Schmo Present. I’m really I’m good buddies with Ingrid from season two, which occurred to be my favourite season.
I, you realize, she, I’ve talked to her about it loads within the, prior to now and, you realize, with, with you and also you doing this present. Clearly you in all probability by no means noticed these reveals, however I’ll ask you. Did you ever wa, clearly you’ve in all probability possibly gone again and watched now, however have you ever ever seen, you had by no means seen any of the Joe Schmo reveals the earlier ones,
proper?
I, I had not seen any of the Joe Schmo reveals. No. What about it was somewhat bit too younger?
Yeah, I used to be gonna say, that’s why I requested how outdated you have been. So these have been in all probability whenever you have been like younger teenagers? I might suppose 13. 13, yeah. Early
teenagers. Very early teenagers,
yeah. Have you ever gone again and watched by any likelihood?
I did. I watched Matt Kennedy Gold Season. Yeah, I simply completed, gosh, a pair weeks in the past.
Oh, okay.
And season two looks like it’s laborious to search out.
Yeah. It’s solely, you principally should, I believe you need to Google Joe Schmo present season two on YouTube, after which it’s like. 10 totally different episodes that you just’re gonna have to observe on YouTube, however yeah.
They’re there. It’s a very humorous idea. It’s all primarily based on a pretend courting present. You understand how the Bachelor and Bachelorette, I’m positive you’ve heard of these reveals earlier than. Lap
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Yeah. Like that. Precisely. After which the third one was to do with like, that was like navy stuff or identical to a.
One thing like alongside these strains. However the second was very humorous. Only a, an overabundance of sexual innuendos.
Proper.
The courting present. I imply, it was actually, actually, rather well completed. And however so that you hadn’t seen any of these. What about jury responsibility? The one which turned, that, that turned a success the final couple years on Amazon Prime?
Yep. I’ve seen, seen it.
You probably did see that. So after, wait, did you, have you ever seen, did you, had you seen that earlier than you went and filmed Joe Chibo?
So Joe Schmo was completed filming earlier than jury responsibility was out.
That’s proper. That’s proper. Okay. Okay. So you’ve got, however, however you clearly went and watched it. What did you consider jury responsibility?
Yeah, I assumed it was, you realize, I assumed it was good, you realize, an unique concept. It was actually humorous. You understand, I appreciated the characters. I appreciated, you realize, like I, individuals with the Joe Schmo present, they identical to seeing the reactions of Matt. Yeah. And, you realize, and Ron? Sorry, it’s Ron. Yeah. Ron. Yeah, Ron.
Matt was.
Season one among Joe Schmo, proper? Yeah. So when, whenever you watched, by the way in which, have you ever, have you ever ever contacted any, did you ever contact Matt attain out to him or Ronald?
No, I don’t suppose so. No, you must. I wish to discuss to a number of the different Joe Schmos. That’d be cool.
Yeah, no, I believe you must. I imply, I, I believe they’d, I, I’m positive that they’d reply you and simply be like, yeah, all of us went by way of this.
All of us went by way of this factor. So put up filming, every little thing occurs. And we’re gonna get to the, you realize, the, the ending and the reveal and all that. However simply I wish to once more, choose your mind about put up filming. Really, let’s, let’s, let’s go to the finale as soon as you discover out,
okay. It’s
all about you and also you get the $200,000 prize, proper?
And also you discovered all people else is an actor. Was there any a part of you that was upset or mad in any respect or felt betrayed?
No.
Not, not within the, within the second, like proper when it occurred? No.
Okay.
Later that evening, like once I’m alone and you realize, all of the ideas after which all of the totally different conditions that occurred, run by way of your thoughts.
You’re like, then you definitely begin to really feel somewhat bizarre after which rapidly I brushed it off.
